Friday, July 18, 2014

Running coil... I guess?

So I guess I'm running the coil static for now. I don't think I'm a good leader because I'm highly task & goal oriented, and am not very empathic. My Myers-Briggs testing puts me as a borderline between INTJ and ENTJ. If you're upset or something feels wrong, I probably won't notice so you'll have to /tell me. I also like being fully public and explaining my thoughts so feel free to use the comments or talk to me about your own thoughts

Given the limited time we have as a fully group, I believe we should get through things we can complete ASAP so we can spend time practicing to clear later content. This means getting through T6 & T7 ASAP on roles we're familiar with so we can spend time to clear T8, and later Ramuh EX. From what people are telling me, we should have enough DPS to clear T8 now, and the mechanics of T8 are supposedly simpler than T7 so it's just a matter of practice. Once we're clearing T8 comfortably, we can go back and switch roles around if people want to play around with other jobs for the earlier turns.

For loot, the primary/secondary system works for now, but I'm adding a 3rd tier for sending gear to people who we are asking to come on specific jobs that are not their primary or secondary selections. Make the primary/secondary jobs the ones *you* want to get gear on. I'm also going to prioritize if you use your job for coil. I.e.: Multiple people have Caster gear as their primary selection, but DO always comes as SMN so he gets first call on if he wants to lot on something. I will always ask in priority order if you want to lot on something, so it's your choice if you want to get something for BiS, or to pass if you already have other gear that is better than what dropped.

Primary Secondary Tertiary(coil)
A'sanya Caster (T6) Healer (T8/T7)
Ascy Tank (T8/T6) BRD DRG (T7)
Austin Healer (T7/T6) DRG (T8)
Holt BRD (T8/T7/T6) DRG
Kurai Caster Healer (T8/T6) Tank (T7)
Marcux Tank (T7/T6) Caster MNK (T8)
Rhela'to Caster (T8/T7/T6) BRD
Rooks MNK (T8/T7/T6) Tank
(Let me know if this is incorrect, or needs to be changed)

If job selections need to be changed for newer content (T9, Ramuh EX come to mind), we'll throw that info up here and if necessary, add to the tertiary lotting. If RNG happens to be kind to you and you finish all the gear for a job and want to change your job priority because you're done, talk to other people lotting on those pieces if it's okay. We'll re-evaluate job choices & priorities when 2.4 or when the next tier of equipment is released.

For oils, sands, and tomestones, we'll do a round-robin method where once you get one, you'll be ineligible to lot until everyone else in the static has gotten one from the group. For tomestones, we'll also prioritize people who have the Soldiery saved up to actually use it. No point in lotting something you can't use when we're getting one drop a week. Since we're also at a point where everyone has gotten a tomestone/oil in the past, and Kurai is just joining us, we'll start the oil/tomestone lotting from scratch next week (At least, I think everyone has gotten one of each?)

If we have to replace someone to fill in, we'll also have them give the same priorities of primary/secondary, and allow a tertiary if necessary, stated up front to the group before starting.

Anything need clarifying? Comment below or talk to me on AIM or in-game. I also appreciate thoughts from others not in the active group for a different perspective (ya Vanh, this means you!)

15 comments:

Vanh said...

Ultimately, it's up to everyone involved in that system to be ok with it or not. If everyone is fine and happy with it, there's no reason to change it.

Personally, I would be a little uncomfortable by it because on the surface I can already say it's not a completely fair system. Having a tertiary tier already tips the balance of the system, unless everyone got to choose a third set.

Someone could also game that system if they were devious enough. All they'd have to do is be someone that brings more than one job to coil, then choose a completey different job (they they dont ever intend to bring to coil) as either their primary or secondary. This guarantees three sets.

However, I did say on the surface that it wasn't fair. It doesn't take into account the unique situation they we got into where job changes were needed, AND people did agree to those job changes. You could also make the argument that people bringing multiple jobs have it tougher by having to be able to play multiple jobs well, so it's like their compensation.

Ascule said...

Hmm... the 3rd tier does make it possible to game the system. I mainly put it up there to send MNK gear Marcux's way to improve our chances specifically at T8. It's making explicit what we were doing anyway, except now the jobs people want to gear up take priority over gearing jobs needed for specific coil turns.

It is my opinion that job changes are needed to get through content to fit the situation and to adjust for strengths & weaknesses. We can't do T7 with 3 ranged DPS, and we can't do T8 with 2 tanks. We also can't get through T8 without a solid amount of DPS which means funneling some gear to T8 jobs when possible.

Maybe we should have everyone able to set a tertiary? I was hoping to keep it relatively simple with these tiers, but we could easily go ahead and set up where we get a priority list for all 6 roles for everyone. (Caster, Tank, Healer, BRD, DRG, MNK) My personal choice for DRG would be much further down the list, past healer.

Marcux said...

I just want enough gear on my mnk to get us past T8, It's not a job I wish to gear up. I might be able to use crafted gear with materia to fill any lacking slots, all in all, i'm doing roughly 320 dps, which is still within limits. and we've already beaten the dps cap/race on t8 by my estimates of average dps.

I assume i'm going to be tanking t9 once we get to it since my pld is well geared at this point.

Ascule said...
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Ascule said...

Fun loots

- T6
- Casting Ring to DO (Ghiren already has)
- Striking Head to Austin (no other lots. Free lot if this drops further)

- T7
- DO - Casting belt
- Rooks - Slaying choker
- Oil - Rooks (2/8)

- T8
- Holt - Aiming Choker
- Austin - Healing Belt
- Ascy - Sand (2/8)

And... wow, finishing T6-8 in 2 hours from start with plenty of time for T9!

Ascule said...

Bah, accidentally deleted the previous week's comments :(

Current oil/sand/tomestone status SHOULD be:

- Oil: Holt & Rooks (2/8)
- Sand: Rooks & Ascy (2/8)
- Tomestone: Reset (0/8)

with this week's tomestone going to Holt to complete the complete previous set.

Vanh said...

Woo grats on T8!!!

Ascule said...

T6 - Ascy the loot whore for tank feet & DRG hands
T7 - Healer from the sky - Bracelets to Austin, body to A'sanya
T8 - MNK feet & DRG head to Rooks

- Oil: Holt & Marcux (2/8)
- Tomestone: Rooks (1/8)
- Sand: Rooks, Ascy, Marcux (3/8)

Ascule said...

Thanks Vanh <3

Free weekend coming up again between August 22 and September first! It's during the summer event I think so... come on in!

And if wondering about last week's loot... Rooks accidentally fat-fingered the DRG helm xD

Ascule said...

T6
- Healing Earring - Kurai
- Aiming Belt - DO

T7
- Fending choker - Ascy
- Aiming Mask - Ascy
- Oil - A'sanya
- Tomestone - Kurai

T8
- Slaying Bracelets - Austin
- Aiming Choker - Ascy
- Sands - DO

- Oil: Holt, Marcux, A'sanya (3/8)
- Tomestone: Rooks, Kurai (2/8)
- Sand: Rooks, Ascy, Marcux, DO (4/8)

Ascule said...

T6
- Aiming belt - Ascy
- MNK belt - Holt

T7
- Fending choker - Rooks
- Slaying Ring - Rooks
- Oil - DO
- Tomestone - Holt

T8
- MNK boots - Marcux
- Fending belt - Kurai
- Sand - Kurai


- Oil: Holt, Marcux, A'sanya, DO (4/8)
- Tomestone: Rooks, Kurai, Holt (3/8)
- Sand: Rooks, Ascy, Marcux, DO, Kurai (5/8)

Ascule said...

T6
- MNK belt - Austin
- Casting Ring - Kurai

T7
- MNK body - Austin
- Healing choker - Kurai

T8
- Fending Belt - Rooks
- Fending Hands - Ascy
- Sand - Holt


- Oil: Holt, Marcux, A'sanya, DO, Ascy (5/8)
- Tomestone: Rooks, Kurai, Holt, Marcux (4/8)
- Sand: Rooks, Ascy, Marcux, DO, Kurai, Holt (6/8)

Ascule said...

T6
- Aiming - DO
- Striking - Holt
T7
- Fending - Kurai
- Aiming - Marcux
- Oil - Rooks
- Tomestone - Ascy

T8
- Healing - Ghiren
- Casting - Ghiren
- Sand - Austin

- Oil: Holt, Marcux, A'sanya, DO, Ascy, Rooks (6/8)
- Tomestone: Rooks, Kurai, Holt, Marcux, Ascy (5/8)
- Sand: Rooks, Ascy, Marcux, DO, Kurai, Holt, Austin (7/8)

Ascule said...

T6
- Fending feet - Rooks
- DrG hands - Kurai
- TOmestone - Asanya
- Oil - Kurai

- Oil: Holt, Marcux, A'sanya, DO, Ascy, Rooks, Kurai (RESETS NEXT DROP) (7/8)
- Tomestone: Rooks, Kurai, Holt, Marcux, Ascy, A'sanya (6/8)
- Sand: Rooks, Ascy, Marcux, DO, Kurai, Holt, Austin (7/8)

Ascule said...


T7
- MNK body - Holt
- Healing Wrists - Kurai
- Oil of time - Minori
- Tomestone - DO (resets)
- Sand of time - A'sanya (resets)

- Oil: Minori (1/8)
- Tomestone: FRESH RESET (0/8)
- Sand: FRESH RESET (0/8)